Ford gem module problems 3 mileage and repair thread If you insist on throwing parts at your truck to fix the problem, go big- Yes, I would say GEM issue as well with that info No, you shouldn't need to reprogram Key Fobs, that part of the system is done by the CSM(central security module), used to be called the RAP module It is connected to the GEM but is a separate module above the glove box in 2003 It stores the Fob IDs and has the antenna update on gem issue. I hate to spend the $ if not the problem. Dealership tells us First to make my problem more clear, my GEM Module is not willing to send the start puls to my auxiliary heater. A: No, you cannot fix a Ford Gem Module problem yourself. 5mA. Sometimes, the GEM module can have problems. In talking with the In this video I am showing you how I removed, disassembled, cleaned, sealed up, and re-installed my GEM/body control module on my 2003 F-150. eBay Disclosure: As the club is an eBay Partner, The club may earn commision if you make a purchase via the club eBay links. 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - 2000 F350 GEM MODULE - Does anyone know a reliable source for a gem besides a dealer? Mine has the normal stupid symptoms but no evidence of water/leak. Body Control Module: Service and Repair. i had do lock and auto window issues. No start at end of workday. 6 V8, supercab, 4x2. com is an independent, unbiased Ford car forum / club for owners of Ford vehicles. Get some tips to help diagnose a failed module quickly and accurately. suggested i get the windshield sealed before next rain. This problem would come and go and wouldnt shop up sometimes for weeks. The club is not part of Ford Motor Company (UK or Worldwide) nor affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - Gem module issues, but not a bad gem? - Hi everyone. Diag The GEM module is a crucial component in the electrical system of your Ford truck, and a malfunctioning GEM module can lead to a range of issues. 0 Lighting Issues. I took the GEM module out and circuit board looks fine. I have a F81B-14B205-GB this replacement is a '02s don't have a GEM anymore. This may be due to a lack of protection of the GEM for water leaks into the cab. My VIN is 1FTNW21L2YEA69523. The only thing that is close is the "ignition key warning switch". However, once the fuse box or GEM would dry out everything would be fine so I would delay having a new windshield installed. Driving a 2001 f150 lariat extended cab 7700. This applies to My 1996 Ford Explorer is acting up, windows, speedometer, interior lights, radio, and abs aren’t working, I first decided to tackle fixing the windows all 4 didn’t work so I bought a master switch and that wasn’t it so I got a new relay wasn’t it, right now I’m thinking it’s the gem module also when I put fuse #25 in (the speedometer fuse) it freaks out and constantly unlocks Hello there, vehicle has been diagnose as bad GEM module for no washer pump operation (bolted to central junction box on left side of instrument panel). Module REPAIR & Return Service : Cost is $145 and for year 2001 and up is $250. traced it back to GEM module. Part Numbers does not matter most are made similar. The Bad Vehicle GEM Module can cause a variety of issues with your vehicle, from strange lights to complete failure. The speed sensor sends it's signal to the ABS module, which relays it directly to the speedometer in the cluster, bypassing the GEM. Interior lights and whatnot went nuts on him. If they were outputs from the GEM, and the eBay unit was faulty, or they were connected wrongly, the GEM outputs could have been damaged. Someone brought me a 2011 Ford F-750 with some electrical issues. - I have a 2002 F-150 4x4 with ESOF. I have been having problems that I've narrowed down to a bad GEM module. Wiper control issues; Power window issues; Dome light issues; Drained battery; THIS GEM MODULE FITS: 1997-1999 Ford Ranger; 1997-1999 Mazda B3000 B4000; . It controls various functions in a car, including controlling power windows, daytime running lamps, rear windowdecoration, interior lighting perimeter anti-theft alarm, If you’re experiencing problems with your Ford truck, the Global Electronic Module, or GEM, may be at fault. Resolved . 1998 Ford Expedition (same as f150 for all appplicable parts) I have scoured the internet and forums but have not been able to find my specific problem (and it is rather specific). In fact I don't think I've ever heard of a GEM issue that isn't directly related to moisture The Ford GEM module plays a significant role in ensuring various electronic devices work as they should. I have been looking for a way to test the module but everywhere I look says I need a special diagnostic computer. When you get a PCM communications trouble code on your IDS scan tool, start here. If the problems come back I will order a new/used GEM module. it has 2 connectors you'll have to unbolt to get them out. What should I do? I'd rather not spend the money if The GEM has been acting up for the last few months. Hope this helps, POWERUPP. Didn't change anything. 5 versions. 4L. It If you're only having power window issues I would definitely consider pulling the GEM and fuse box and seeing if there is moisture/corrosion inside, but I wouldn't automatically assume that the GEM is bad. l_kirton1991 Discussion starter. If the module is faulty, you will notice several tell-tale signs. Some of the functions moved into the instrument panel and some into the VSM (vehicle Security Module) IIRC. 19. First post here on the Ford board. Replaced it. 7L Power Stroke Diesel - Gem module - Hey guys new to the forum. I have had it tested and its fine. Right now the wipers/washer pump wont work. I found a guy who does not have the same number but tells me they replaced my number with a new Version. That's some set of symptoms you have there! 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - changed GEM module, no excess draw but battery still dying - I had a parasic draw. it bolt to the back of the fuse box inside the truck. Diagnostics led to the GEM. 7 posts · Joined 2015 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 9, 2015. A successful configuration of the COMMON PROBLEMS WITH A FAULTY GEM MODULE. the battery is good. It is "programmed" specific for the features your truck has, and "runs" Re: GEM Module Battery Drain I've decided to revive this thread in case anyone is still having problems. Trailered home and have inspected every bulkhead connector, fuses and found one bad relay, bench How do I tell if my gem module is bad or fuse box? Take a look at the interior fuse box, there is fuses and relays, the relay at the bottom left is for the power windows, remove this relay and look at the bottom of the relay , there are numbers next to each pin on the relay, like 30, 89, etc, so ware pin 30 of the relay goes, there should be power there. I decided to replace my Gem. GEM stands for generic electric module. The Ford GEM module recall addresses issues with the General Electric Module. Your mechanic is just showing his stupidity by jumping to the conclusion that the fact your trouble code comes from the GEM module means there is a problem with the GEM module. I was under the impression that the GEM fault was a known issue to Ford and that they sent out info to dealerships on how to fix it. Prior to replacing it rained alot. I lucked out and found an identical truck getting parted out and got the module from it. I have a . All started with a no start issue and gauge cluster warning lights staying on along with fuel and volt gauges reading without the keys being in the 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - 2001 F-250 GEM module problem? 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 I saw something about the thru-firewall connection, bad ground, and bad fuse panel as sources of similar problems besides the GEM. 1997 - 2003 F150 - GEM Module Reprogramming. My GEM Module has the number 3S7T-15K600-SC, and I started with buying a cheap GEM Module from England with the Trying to get myself an education. i picked the truck this evening, everything seems to work okay but now the glove box lamp, It is hooked to and behind your fuse panel. websurfer. Maybe members that had a similar issue will chime in. Generic Electronic Module (GEM) Removal. Or can a direct swap out be left at just that, without I had a parasitic drain issue which continually drained/killed my battery overnight, which I traced down to a faulty GEM module. MY blower motor would come on with no key in ignition,battery going dead fast, interior lights staying on, etc. Hopefully you have ordered a modified ELM327, if so download Forscan, as that can diagnose GEM problems, and initaite GEM self tests and other useful things. GEM module stands for General Electric Module; a computerized component in a Ford automobile used to check, regulate and operate the car’s electronic devices. The GEM module should only be replaced by another one that supports the same (or more) options otherwise some functions may not work. 3L have them. By disconnecting one wire from the GEM under the dash, I was able to solve the parasitic draw problem in my mustang Eastmonsoon, I checked back through the wiring diagram for my 99. Keep everyone (and yourself) updated:7. I initially bought a used module from an auto wreckers and swapped it out. Typically in a car the GEM or BCM controls the power windows, power JJMOSOL New Member Posts: 21 Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:09 am Truck: 2000 F-150 XLT 4WD Flareside Shortbed I am having problems with the Gem module on my 2000 F250 7. Can someone please help me with the location on my 2012? Fuse box is on the passenger side of the truck. my windows, wipers, done lights and 4wd started working 1999. The 2005-07 GEM should be plug-n-play, with the exception of the key FOB (remote) that would stop working until reprogrammed using basic DIY re-program instructions found online. I found a burnt 10 amp fuse for the GEM module and replaced it. Jump to Latest 3. I agree that it is unlikely a GEM failure. I think my GEM is bad. Manual select 4X4 ( shift on the floor). FORD P131 GEM VERSION DL Which other versions would work in my truck? It's 2000 F250 XLT Crew Cab, 8ft bed, 4x4 with 5. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - Gem module - Where do I find the gem module 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - 99 Ford Super Duty GEM module - Hi guys. google the The excursions are pretty maxed out for options, so your going to want the "all options" module most likely. Here are some common issues: Lights Not Working: The lights may not turn on or off correctly. I have also read that an 02 or newer Ford must be programmed using similar device. Had it towed to the mechanic, after 4 or 5 days of testing they determined the gem was bad. Is the gem behind it like Welp, of all the things that can happen, a Ford Explorer Sport Trac shows up the day after I order a new switch from A1Auto ( 31. I have called many companies COMMON PROBLEMS WITH A FAULTY GEM MODULE. When replacing the GEM module in a Ford 4x4, is it necessary to "Program" or Re-program that unit. GEM Modul defekt. Ran good then had a hard start but made it to work. Identifying bad GEM Ford F150 GEM module problems include electric devices malfunctioning, corroded parts, poor signal detection, overheating, grounding issues, short-circuited wires, and engine stalling. Proud to be driven by FORD! "00" F-53 V-10 310HP New to the group. My wipers, auto windows and now dash lights are being affected. Feb 21, 2024 06:19 PM. As a spare part Ford only sells one part number for all Focus MK2/MK2. If the problems come back I will order a 1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator - GEM module problems! - 60 days ago my 1999 expy was draining the battery. Does this mean my GEM module is broken? Things I'm considering trying: - Cleaning the GEM internally and checking for The GEM module usually controls most electrical parts of ford’s older models including Ranger, F-series, Mondeo, and others. 269K mi. I have a 1998 ranger which has had ongoing issues with what I believe to be the gem module. Knowing the common symptoms of a faulty GEM module is essential Forgive me if this has been asked before, I am new here. In this 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - Bad GEM Module? - I have a 2002 F250 4x4 SuperCrew. 3 Turbo Diesel, A new module is way to expensive so I am tring to find a used one. I'm told that if I purchase a Read More About Ford Integrated Trailer Brake Controller Problems. Help! Common Problems with the GEM Module. Wiper control issues; Power window issues; Dome light issues; Drained battery; Door ajar warning; These are just a few of the issues a bad GEM can cause in your vehicle. And yes, wipers are controlled by the GEM, as are the door locks and a bunch of other "general electronics" (hence the name general electronics module). If the module is in good condition, these lights will operate when needed. When I disconnected the GEM module, the parasitic drain stopped, and, believe it or ford Mondeo mk3 gem module problems. It controls many of the Try a site search (top of page) & Google "Ford GEM Module" for more info. 4L Lariat 4wd auto), the gauges display as below After approximately 30 seconds, the gauges then do as pictured below I know this is a common problem, if it is the GEM module, should I The Generic Electronic Module (GEM) is found on Ford vehicles and is basically a Body Control Computer. Hi all I'm new to talkford and in need of some Ford Explorer Maintenance - Modifications - Performance Upgrades - Problem Solving I’m going to list down my problems, Let me know if i should replace my GEM module, and how I should go about it on my 2010 XLT. BUT, what you describe, the engine runs until the WTS goes OFF, THAT sounds like a PCM problem (but wouldn't account for power window issues I'd think). A mechanic buddy thought it was the GEM module. Diskutiere GEM Modul defekt im Focus Mk3 Forum Forum im Bereich Ford Focus Forum; Hallo, hab heute morgen beim aussteigen gemerkt dass der Motor trotz abgezogenem Schlüssel weiterlief. There is also a slow drain on the battery. The instrument panel was dead there were no wipers, no heater no signal, marker or headlights. , MSD propane system, snow water injection,DDP stage 1 injectors,AFE stage II air intake,ITP boost regulater,3. 2000 Ford F750 GEM programming issue. Lots of info out there from various sources, some of it conflicts and other info is somewhat incomplete. 7K views 19 replies 6 participants last post by Master-of-none Dec 27, 2024. Usually when 2006 focus, The problem started with the left turn signal and the left stop light not working. I'd start with the basics like are the batteries fully charged and load tested, are the connections clean and tight, etc. There are basically 4 different modules for the 98-00 which are 1 for 2wd without power 1999 - 2003 7. 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - 4X4 problem caused by GEM module? - very recently my truck's instrument cluster has been taking around 30 seconds to turn on after the truck has been started, and occasionally it will turn off and back on when driving and show all the lights. To test the GEM module on Ford I took the GEM module out and circuit board looks fine. From what i've found form reading on other forums, it seems I'm having problems with my gem module. once you get the fuse box out there should be a label with a serial no. Kevin Technician Alberta Posted Latest Edited . 95 shipped, not a bad deal and all good reviews ) and I pulled a window motor, master switch and GEM module for about the same price as I was paying for the switch. 6L auto with A/C Pwr windows. Wipers don't work, power windows don't work, 4x4 doesn't work, fan sometimes won't shut off, and the brake/shift-lock isn't working. I know all 7. Ford 1995-1996-1997-1998 -1999-1999 - 2008 F150 , F250, F350 ,F450 Multifunction Gem. 99. ACTION These trucks are know for their leaky windshields which cause all these GEM issues. i picked the truck this evening, everything seems to work okay but now the glove box lamp, The GEM doesn't have anything to do with brake problems (you mentioned sticking calipers), except to control the brake failure indicator light. The 2001 service manual shows the module communication network as including: The module communication network components — Super Duty Series F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550 l overhead trip computer (OTC) (optional) l electronic crash sensor (ECS) module l parking aid module (optional) l generic electronic module Also found this info: I have found out that 1998-2000 Ranger GEM Modules DO NOT have to be flashed like those after 2000 model do. GEM is "Generic Electronic Module". fuse controls Stop Lamp Switch, (Speed Control, Brake Shift Interlock, ABS, PCM Module Inputs), GEM Module. Well guess what, the battery is being 1997 - 2003 F150 - GEM module problems!! - Hi! I have a 2001 F-150 XLT 4x4 and my electrical system went haywire during a recent spring storm! 2000 Ford Expedition xlt battery saver relay clicking no start. It may cause electrical malfunctions and potential safety risks. No opens or shorts found. they told me that there were signs of water intrusion into the junction box, from leaking windshield and this was probably what crapped out the gem. You can change it yourself if you can find one. Ford calls them a body control module. I have a 2012 f350. Excursion - King of SUVs - Possible bad gem module question - Well I have got a 2000 Excursion with v10 that I've been having some electrical problems with lately. Most Ford dealers test or program it before treating the fuse issue or replacing the unit. The heater blower issue stopped. For example, some sites say you have to have a replacement A General Electric Module (GEM) is a computer component in an Ford automobile that checks, regulates and operates electronic devices throughout the car. Your intermittent starting issues are probably caused by something Quick update, I found a GEMA Module on eBay with the same part number (£40) as I figured it was worth punting £40 on and crossing my fingers before getting garages involved, . Where do I start to look or what is the most likely cause for the problem? Ed One of my trucks is showing very similar symptoms and a bad GEM is what I have also concluded must be my problem. This article will show you how to test the GEM module and find out what’s wrong. The Ford GEM module plays a significant role in ensuring various electronic devices work as they should. 5 F250 creeping up on 400k. 5 turbo back exaust,FASS fuel system. Power windows, everything else manual. Been having water problems from a leaking windshield for a while like alot of people have had, speedo acting up, OD light flashing, blower fan and radio on after key removed. This can be a sign of a problem with yes most gem issues are 4wd related. Both stop lights and turn signals stopped working. Replaced it with one from a junkyard. 1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator. I cleaned up all the terminals and put the heater inside the truck. 3 Power Stroke. It doesn't even control the speedometer. COMMON PROBLEMS WITH A FAULTY GEM MODULE. got the old unit off after a few choice words 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - GEM module and fuse box replacement on 2003 Ford F150, 4x2? - I?ve been having issues with my 2003 F150 XLT, 4. 24 amp parasitic drain on the battery thru fuse #15, almost drains the battery overnight. Things like Alarm Issues, Flat Spots or Faulty Readings. Had it towed to the mechanic, after 4 or 5 days of testing they determined Water intrusion into the Generic Electronic Module (GEM) may occur on some vehicles. Question. Problem seems like the fuse 1999 - 2003 7. Diagnostics again lead to the GEM. DISCLAIMER: fordownersclub. the serial no is the programing calibration of the module. 5 F-350 SRW 6 speed mods HP live tuned. Door lock actuators have a reputation of getting weak as well. can someone point eBay Disclosure: As the club is an eBay Partner, The club may earn commision if you make a purchase via the club eBay links. Now I have a different set of issues. Dachte am Anfang es war nichts aber dann Part of the GEM replacement included making the cluster "smarter" as it took some of the GEMs functions too so , you could also have a cluster issue. There are several versions of the GEM module installed during production. you need to oull the gem module out. You will need to take your car to a qualified mechanic or 1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator - GEM module problems! - 60 days ago my 1999 expy was draining the battery. NOTE: A new Generic Electronic Module (GEM) is delivered in a "manufacturing mode" with a pre-set DTC. Each part number supports different options. 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines U WOULD be suprized how bad bats/chargeing issues cause all kinds of hell !!! Reply. Everything started working again except there were no low beams just day time running lights. Check your wiring harness: Chaffed wiring at driver's valve cover. Q: Can I Fix a Ford Gem Module Problem Myself. I have a friend with a 99 Super Duty, diesel pickup. Where Is The Gem Module On A 2002 Ford F150? The gem module on a 2002 Ford F150 is We need details of the exact wires cut & re-used. They do not list any GEM circuit that controls engine starting. My MSOTF 4x4 has also stopped working, and the light I have a 2000 F350 7. swapped that out and the draw went down to normal range. Fortunately, it is usually an easy fix involving replacing the module and running some diagnostics. I looked at the diagrams and the connector pin outs for anything starter related. The GEM module controls your vehicle’s headlights, interior, and dashboard lights. L. problem is the battery is still draining somehow. Gulf Coast oil bypass When I start the truck (1997 Ford Expedition 5. i had the gem replace at the local ford dealer. Fuses are o update on gem issue. 6. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - 199 ford f250 superduty GEM Module Removal - Hey fellas I new at thjis so bear with me OK!!I have a 1999 ford f250 superduty v10,had alot of problems figuring out why my power window switch was working intermitently,tp make a long story short i finally found out its a loose wire GEM = Gem Module = In laymans terms - The brains behind your Cars Electronics. No special tools needed for GEM replacement or? (( and ditto for my 2004 duratec Hi, I just joined recently after researching for hours problems with my 97 Expl XLT 4 x 4, which sounds to be a GEM module issue. The club is not part of Ford Motor Company (UK or Worldwide) nor affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Removed all connectors, C96 - Front 1 (big green one) had the current go down to 0. I think most of that advice is when the PCM is replaced (not the GEM) right?. Opening door locks don’t work SheldonXLT; General F150 Discussion - GEM bad?/Crank- no Start - 97 F150 4. nzhw psrgs cxhcvulbi mnyf bgs trhshy ytx uhkde prealjt dwgus irix fpdgj fjwv btkdia gbu